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Showing posts with label Cervelo P2. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cervelo P2. Show all posts

Friday, February 21, 2014

The New Cervelo P2

The P2 is dead. Long live the P2!
by Jack Mott

Since 2006 the Cervelo P2 has enjoyed an incredible run of success. For eight years little was changed about it aside from new forks. It was famously ridden to two Ironman World Championships by Chrissie Wellington. Countless amateurs have racked up wins on it, such as our recently profiled Texas State Cat 3 Champion. The price point and simplicity of the bike make it popular to this day, despite its age. But the time has come for a new P2, and it is in stock and ready to rock.


Differences From The P3

The biggest question on everyone's mind is how the P2 differs from the P3. With a price tag of $2,800 ($1,150 less than the P3), rumors have circulated that the frame might be heavier, or lower grade carbon, or perhaps not shaped quite the same. We have been in touch with our secret contacts at Cervelo and have taken finely calibrated measuring devices to the frames to bring you this shocking table listing the differences in detail:

  • The fork blades are a little thicker (4mm near the crown, 0mm at the dropouts)

That's it. The frame is identical to the P3. Cervelo is shaving cost only by using less expensive components and a slightly thicker fork that is cheaper to manufacture. This has interesting implications for people who tend to upgrade their bikes – the new P2 should only be an Aero Tune-up away from being about as fast as a P5! Or, just leave it alone knowing that the bike is already as fast as others costing twice as much.

The new P2 sticks with the tried and true formula of its predecessor. It is affordable, simple, and aerodynamic. There are no hidden brakes or integrated front ends to give you a headache. Just a very fast, zero hassle bike.

Standard Features


  • Derailleurs - Shimano 150 5700 10spd
  • Shifters - Shimano Dura Ace 7900
  • Brake Calipers - FSA Gossamer Pro
  • Brake Levers - Profile Design ABS AL
  • Crankset - FSA Gossamer BBRight 50/34
  • Aerobar - Profile Design T2/T4
  • Saddle - Fizik ARione Tri2
  • Wheels - Shimano R501

Top Secret Features

Extreme aero weenies have noted that the rear brake cable inserts into the side of the top tube, exposing the cable to a bit of wind. If you don't like the aesthetic or can't stand the thought of a even a second wasted, cable housing can be routed through the top tube instead. Just ask your friendly ATC mechanics and they will set it up that way!




Friday, April 16, 2010

Cervelo P2

Cervelo P2 (2010) new
Written by: Dan Empfield
Date: Thu Apr 15 2010
FROM: SLOWTWITCH.COM

I often see attributed to me the invention of the first "tri bike." But this company, Cervelo, is the first company to introduce what we, today, recognize as the modern tri bike. I might've developed a geometry used today, but Cervelo was the first to inject serious frame aerodynamics
into a bike that also featured geometry that fit and handled nicely.

Cervelo worked out all its basic problems about a decade ago, when it simplified cable routing in its P2K, and added a chain stay adjustment screw to that bike's rear-entry, horizontal dropouts. Then it wrapped a seat tube around the rear wheel, the first time in the modern era a tri or TT bike has done so. That design is widely copied today. Then came the move to carbon. Since then it's been pretty clear sailing.

In this forward march offering feature upon feature, the P2 was, in a way, a step backward. Cervelo "unwrapped" the rear wheel with this bike—straightening out the seat tube—but, it didn't keep Chrissie Wellington out of the Hawaiian Ironman winner's circle (even if it was on a P2 frame one size too small for her). The P2 was probably the world's second best tri bike when it was introduced and, for some folks, a better bike than the better bike.

What makes the P2 possibly better than the P3? Geometry. No, it's really not any different than the P3 fundamentally, it's just that the P2 has a longer head tube than the P3 in its taller sizes. Today, your best play is to buy the most frame you can underneath you, that is, rather than a smaller frame and a longer, taller stem with spacers underneath, fill up that space with frame material (which is stronger, lighter, more aerodynamic, than stems, spacers, and overtall headset top caps).

For this reason, the P2 is a better bike for you than the P3, if the latter will only fit you with spacers and an upturned stem.
The P2 has been a category beater for years. At $2500 for a complete bike, nothing came close. But this bike isn't priced at $2500 anymore. For 2010, the complete bike price sits at $2800. And why not? It was probably priced too low at $2500. But, other companies now have bikes selling at this price point. The Cannondale Slice 4, Scott Plasma 30, Specialized Transition Comp, and Trek Equinox TTX 9.0, all sell for right at this price. Felt's B12 is priced only slightly above.

Has the rest of the world caught up to the P2? Yes and no. Specwise, the P2 is pretty much an Ultegra bike, and that includes chain and cassette, the biggest variances from Ultegra being the FSA brake calipers and its Gossamer Pro crank and Mega Exo bottom bracket. What's nice about the crank is its bolt pattern: 110mm, with 50x34 chainrings. This is the better option for most triathletes living in most locations.

Cervelo puts a Visiontech aerobar on the P2, with Vision brake levers and pursuit bar. What's bad about Vision is the lack of modularity and length adjustability. What's good about Vision is, if the bar fits you—if the right sized bar (for you) is on the bike—this is a nice, comfortable, ergonomic aerobar.

The P2 comes with boring, but eminently rideable, Shimano R500 wheels, and a Fizik Arione Tri2 saddle. Getting a good tri-specific aftermarket saddle on this bike is a big plus and, as far as the wheels go, boring is good. Sexy is bad, if sexy means a broken spoke at an inopportune time, with no way to run down to the LBS and get a replacement spoke stuck back into your wheel.

The spec on the P2 is superior to that on the Plasma 30 and the Transition Comp, both of those bikes featuring a largely 105 kit with an unimpressive Profile T2+ front end.
Is SRAM Rival a match for Shimano Ultegra? I don't know, but I think SRAM's Force and Rival groups need a few million aggregated consumer miles on them before we'll get a good sense for how it is they line up against Shimano's Ultegra and 105. Two attaboys for SRAM: its pursuit brake levers and bar end shifters. Shimano is still not out with a plug in brake lever (other than Di2) and it's still selling a thumb shifter decades old as its bar end shifter.

That established, neither Trek nor Cannondale is using SRAM's brake levers, and, this is one of the prime reasons for choosing SRAM for timed race bikes.

Finally, it should not go unmentioned that the P2 uses 3T's Funda fork. That's a high end fork on a midrange bike.

So, yes, the world has caught up in this sense: As bike companies aggregate models in and around this $2800 price point, you find other very nice frames—the Slice, the Plasma I, the Transition, the Equinox TTX, an un-bayonetted Felt—built complete. The P2 threads the spec needle a little bit better most others in this price category.

Because the P2 is spec'd with a low-profile Visiontech aerobar, don't let its slightly taller head tubes fool you into thinking this is a relaxed geometry. This is still a long and low bike ready for an aggressive position. If you don't intend to ride your tri bike reasonably forward, and, with a pretty flat back, the P2 may still work for you, but, perhaps a change of aerobar.